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Top Dollar is a strange one, does the game tell you whether keeping the win is Optimal or whether one should try again? I understand how the game works, but I've never played it. Does the game give the probabilities of hitting certain results?
I finally remembered last night to take a photo of the strategy guide. The strategy for accepting the offer is based on the offer amount. The 'best play says' that will be displayed after about 20 seconds is based on the strategy and is not a definite indication that the next offer will be higher or lower.
'Although individual results are random, the best overall strategy is to select [Take Offer]
If the 1st offer is at least 50
If the 2nd offer is at least 45
Or if the 3rd offer is at least 35'
(This photo of the game info screen is from the Top Dollar machine in the high limit room at Aliante.)
In Top Dollar, if you watch the little screen, it will eventually give you advice, after about 20 seconds. It shows it quickly, so pay attention. You should follow this advice.
The key point that I want to make for this thread is that the 'Best play says' advice of 'Try Again' or 'Take Offer' is based solely on the strategy that can be found in one of the Info/Help screens. The advice of 'Try Again' does not guarantee that the next offer will be higher.
If it was me I would rather choose the Take offer. Choosing try again does not guarantee you anything. It is more risky than just taking the offer.
By that same standard, tossing a Jack of Spades that would otherwise start you with a pair of Jacks is more risky than holding the JQKA of Diamonds that you were dealt with it, which would you rather do?
In the Wizard of Vegas game guide for slots under Advice:
The key point that I want to make for this thread is that the 'Best play says' advice of 'Try Again' or 'Take Offer' is based solely on the strategy that can be found in one of the Info/Help screens. The advice of 'Try Again' does not guarantee that the next offer will be higher.
I do believe MaxPen pointed it out to me, he also has some experience with TD. You can grab his attention, he's probably over gloating in the election thread.
On the rare occasions I have a good reason to play TD I now do what it says to do(I think The Wizard would agree) in the long run it should work out better for you. I had better results taking its advice. Legally I don't think they can offer long term bad advice. I wouldn't treat it any different than a table game or VP strategy. It may not work out each time, however in the long run it's the best way.
Legally I don't think they can offer long term bad advice.
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Probably not. And in New Jersey at least, they must offer the correct advice, or the game wouldn't be legal.
I come up with this conundrum when playing, because I've had this happen multiple times
Offer 1 - 35 Credits (Pass No thanks) $875
Offer 2 - 100-10-5-X2-X2 = 460 Credits $11,500
I almost wish they would show you the offers you missed. Theres a part of me that wants to push it and go to the next offer, but in the 3 times its happened, I've taken the offer everytime. its a 25$ game, I couldn't imagine its average multiple payout much higher than that.
Honestly it has paid out more than the 2 Credit - 100$ Top Dollar games I've played at the Seminole Casinos in Florida (avoid them like the plague)
I play 3 Credit - $25 Dollar Top Dollar Deluxe at a 'Boutique' Casino in Eastern Pennsylvania. Its slowly becoming the game I transition more to, from $100 WOF.
I come up with this conundrum when playing, because I've had this happen multiple times
Offer 1 - 35 Credits (Pass No thanks) $875
Offer 2 - 100-10-5-X2-X2 = 460 Credits $11,500
I almost wish they would show you the offers you missed. Theres a part of me that wants to push it and go to the next offer, but in the 3 times its happened, I've taken the offer everytime. its a 25$ game, I couldn't imagine its average multiple payout much higher than that.
Honestly it has paid out more than the 2 Credit - 100$ Top Dollar games I've played at the Seminole Casinos in Florida (avoid them like the plague)
With that level of play, you would be a king in Vegas. Not sure what VF can be giving you of value in comps.
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Double Top Dollar remains a classic slot machine that I expect will be around for a long time to come, and is a favorite of high-limit slot players. In this session I did 'Progressive Betting' of $10, $20 and all the way to $50 Max Bets! You may wonder, where's the $100 max bet Top Dollar? Well, I have that saved for another day!
Double Top Dollar is very volatile and many times it's all about the bonus, which upon trigger provides you up to 4 offers. The first 3 you can either accept or reject with the machine informing you of your best play, by the odds. A feature of Double Top Dollar is that besides amounts, you can also receive 2x multipliers to increase the value of your bonus, many times to Jackpot level, as you will see!
The Top Award is 1000 credits which is automatically accepted although you can possibly also be awarded multipliers for a HUGE JACKPOT - maybe one day, Enjoy!
OldSchoolSlots
Nice video Tim, always love to see the 3 reels! Good to see DTD be nice at Foxies, it was not nice to me last year...I love the slow mo effect on the DD bar bar hit...so dramatic! Cheers and stay safe!
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Double Top Dollar is one of my all-time favorite IGT slots especially when played at high-limit: how can you not like this one?! Top Dollar has so many different variations, such as the 3X4X5X version of mine which has close to a half-million views, help my crest that milestone! Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN09XaB1cz8
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That was an awesome session! Glad you posted this video. Thumbs up to ya!
Double G
Whew 🏋🏽♀️ you almost blew it 😢 congratulations 🍾🎈🎊🎉
Billie JL
So fun to watch those large bets! Congrats - great hit!
dboss22
I’m confused at why you always say “thanks for watching”, stop the video then restart with the same machine & same credits! What’s the point?
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Nathan Diaz
Your turning into a jack ass that covers his jackpots? Lol wow. And your voice sounds like you make movies for Disney.
ant sala
ill never understand the way people play these machines, why take any offer if there is always a chance you can win more. I always go to the final offer if I didn't get the jackpot
james daniels
Always change your credits to cash symbol. Then you'll know your cash value.
superjet2771
I always wonder how folks figue out how to play these games with no instructions. All I can figure out is put money in, pull lever and wait for.....something to happen? The bars and symbols don't make much sense. Maybe this is why I hate Vegas and never go? Watched the whole video and have no idea how much you won.
kramerica2k10
Not sure I would have turned down the $1,000 :) Worked out though.
Deb Bart
Awesome! I didnt know you played at Foxwoods. I Go there alot!
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LEVELSABOVE
So you preferred to take the shitty hand pay jackpot to pay taxes opposed to just take $1000, when could easily make up for the $200-300. I don't even know why people gamble in the states, what a horrid hassle to pay taxes on every hand pay, especially if you're an avid gambler that plays high stakes. A hand pay should be $5,000+ not 1200.
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your voice sounds like someone i know from there that hit 100k years ago at fox tower